Bambi is out of "ICU" and is recovering nicely with a full dose of Kubuntu.I've mislaid the Xubuntu disk so am running Kubuntu. I like KDE generally so should not have any major problems with it. Couldn't have done ti without the help of VLUg members, esp. Patrick, Brent, and Murray. Many thanks to you and to Tux the penguin! Gord Craig.