[Discuss] excuse me?

[Casper Foord]

David is only saying what's on every reasonable person's mind here,  
but that most are too feeble to speak up about.  This list is far too  
cuddly and forgiving and should not be putting up with off-topic  
nonsense such as this.  If Alan is allowed to proceed like this, then  
what's next?  I don't know how many mailing lists you have been on  
Noel, but obviously not enough because most wouldn't put up with this.

The whole Dreamweaver thread is not totally valid; it may be slightly  
valid if it was asked as "what FLOSS alternatives are there to  
Dreamweaver?" not "give me Dreamweaver" and "come to my house" and  
"compare iWeb and Dreamweaver for me".

Furthermore, David and lots of other people gave Alan more advice  
than he deserved.  (See David's post from July 31, 12:55.)

Finally, you should go look up the meaning of "troll", because  
honestly, I thought Alan was actually a troll at first.  He's  
probably one of the best troll candidates in the past 5 years or so I  
can recall on VLUG.  To provide some objectivity for you Noel,  
consider this: what if someone was to go onto, say, the Victoria  
Windows Users Group and post "hi, I live on a boat with a modem and  
can't come to shore, but I need a copy of Mac OS X and also someone  
to show me how to use it; if they could float themselves out to my  
boat I'd pay them".  Sounds kind of silly doesn't it?

On top of it all, I think it is unfair that Alan has rudely and  
unappreciatively revolted back to the very people who were helping  
him all based on advice he received from another group of people  
which he didn't bother following up on.

Casper

P.S.  Like most people, Alan, obviously a newbie, managed to miss out  
on the VLUG Newbie mailing list.  What's with that?

On 14-Aug-07, at 11:04, noel at natnix.com wrote:

> Ummm... David, I'm looking for a polite way of telling you you're  
> being
> an asshole.  Alan's question is totally valid, seeing as nvu (open
> source) is the answer he was looking for.  Even if someone asks an
> off-topic question, be helpful, not a jerk.  Your attitude give Linux
> nerds a bad name.
>
> Alan, let me apologize for David's rude reply.  I personally welcome
> your questions.  Hopefully the trolls will keep their grumbling to
> themselves.  I usually ignore them, but I thought you should know  
> we're
> not all jerks.
>
> ~Noel