[Discuss] Removal of Lumpy MacNutt from this mailing list

[blackcrow]

On Wednesday 07 June 2006 1:14 pm, Corey Burger wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I think all of you understand why I am making this request. Lumpy
> MacNutt has proven himself unable to converse in a civilized manner on
> this mailing list, in direct contravention of our guidelines[1]. As
> such, I am formally asking for him to be removed. If needed, I will
> raise this at the meeting as well.
>
> [1] http://vlug.org/vlug/faq/index.html
>
> Here is the evidence:
> http://vlug.org/pipermail/discuss/2006-June/021465.html
> http://vlug.org/pipermail/discuss/2006-June/021467.html
> http://vlug.org/pipermail/discuss/2006-June/021471.html
> http://vlug.org/pipermail/discuss/2006-June/021494.html
> http://vlug.org/pipermail/discuss/2006-February/020457.html
> http://vlug.org/pipermail/discuss/2006-January/020215.html
> http://vlug.org/pipermail/discuss/2005-November/019546.html
> http://vlug.org/pipermail/discuss/2005-November/019569.html
> http://vlug.org/pipermail/discuss/2005-November/019786.html
> http://vlug.org/pipermail/discuss/2005-November/019796.html
>
> Why do we care? Well, I just received an email from a longtime
> contributer to Ubuntu, Daniel Robitaille, who lives here in town and
> has been subscribed to discuss but has just unsubscribed from it, due
> to Lumpy. Also, any new person joining the list would be right in
> assuming we have a problem with behaviour and respect. Lumpy is
> creating a poisoned atmosphere and seems to be unable to respond to
> resonable requests to stop his activities.
>
> Sadly,
> Corey
Summer greetings _again_ to all:

I couldn't let this thread fade without commenting.

I remember the good old days, before the turn of the last century, when I got 
my start in Linux.  (Emerged from a  twenty year stint of providing for my 
wife & 5 children via divorse).  I spent about 3 months in Windows98 with my 
first "new" computer since the Commodore 64 days.  Someone in VLUG peaked my 
curiosity when I asked:  "What's Linux" at a Cedar Hill Rec Computer show....

....anywhoo.... Posting my newbie questions to VLUG, I got my fair share of 
abuse.  It hurt, but it started me actually taking some time to research 
stuff before posting.

It's good to see the interest in bumping the kindness quotient up a notch with 
this effort....not that I agree that kicking someone off the list is the best 
way to deal with this...

Lets all get along OK?  Linux is now actually beginning to make it to the 
desktop.  More kindness is always appreciated.  Can you imagine how many 
newbies we're gonna have in a few years?  My motto is, if you don't have 
anything nice or helpful to say, don't say anything.  If someone's rude, it 
hurts, but you learn to compensate many ways, one of which is to choose the 
higher path and not take it personally.  Ultimately, if someone is rude, they 
are just reflecting aspects of their own inner life.  Seeing it that way, 
it's easy to let our personal reactions go.

Still, some of the rudeness does make for some interesting reading, as long as 
it's not directed at me........;^)

Chris W.